Sandy Hook 5 years later

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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby Bogeyfire » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:15 pm

marc wrote:I have my own solution: Elect smarter Presidents, Senators, Congressmembers, Governors, State Houses, Town Councils and don’t elect anybody who tells the CDC what words are acceptable to use.

Marc-


Well, I don't see you suggesting any solution to change the gun violence problem. But thanks for trying. Also, the Department of Health and Human Services denies any suggestion that certain words used by the CDC are banned. Fake news?

The statement follows a Friday report by The Washington Post that said the Trump administration had banned the CDC from using certain words, including “transgender,” “evidence-based” and “science-based” in official budget documents.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) disputed the report on Saturday.

"The assertion that HHS has 'banned words' is a complete mischaracterization of discussions regarding the budget formulation process," HHS spokesman Matt Lloyd told The Hill.

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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby duffyb » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:32 pm

fanjack12 wrote:A swipe at those sitting in DC positions now is fine, but don't forget who the President was at the time and for a longer time after Sandy Hook than the now sitting Pres - Don't want to start any political crap, but facts are facts.


Nice try. Obama ran into brick walls with the GOP led Congress in trying to enact reasonable legislation. And just the other day:

'Trump hosted the NRA at the White House on the anniversary of Sandy Hook massacre'
https://shareblue.com/trump-hosted-the- ... -massacre/

Our children are merely collateral damage for the greedy gun industry....

Trump recently repealed Obama's rule making it easier for mentally ill people to purchase guns:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... al-illness

Felons can buy guns without background checks:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... without-b/

Some states have no background checks:
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safet ... s-map.html

The gun show loophole still exists:
https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-show-laws-by-state-721345

And (because of NRA Lobbyists) the CDC is forbidden to keep records or study the effects of gun violence:
http://www.newsweek.com/government-wont ... ing-675794

The GOP Congress extended the ban:
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-02/ ... n-violence


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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby Tabasco » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:43 pm

I live in Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. MS13 is a big problem here. Why did they come here? Simple ... we have the toughest gun laws around. They know they can go around killing. You don't see them going to Texas, Fla ... where there are lax gunlaws. Why hold up a store or go on a killing spree where you would get shot?

Mostly, crime rates and killings are the highest where the toughest gun laws are ...

Detroit ... Chicago ...

What if a teacher or two in Sandy Hook was carrying? Might have been a little different.

Criminals don't care what the gun laws are.
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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby duffyb » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:55 pm

Well, actual studies prove that is not true.

Does a city with the ‘toughest gun laws’ end up with ‘worst gun violence’?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... f30b92b1b3

Short answer: No.

The States With The Most Gun Laws See The Fewest Gun-Related Deaths
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /71003050/

Arm teachers? C'mon, lol!
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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby Bogeyfire » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:55 pm

Tabasco wrote:
Criminals don't care what the gun laws are.


Gospel, Brother.

You nailed it. Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore...

Actually, you have to scratch your head what makes the murder capitals in the USA. Looking at the stats, they are little farm communities and centers of urban blight, and a few other areas I don't quite get, but... all are liberal areas. See:

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/ ... ate-cities
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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby duffyb » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:44 am

Bogeyfire wrote:
Tabasco wrote:
Criminals don't care what the gun laws are.


You nailed it. Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore...



All cities with neighboring States with lax gun laws.
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Re: Sandy Hook 5 years later

Postby Tabasco » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:55 pm

duffyb wrote:Well, actual studies prove that is not true.

Does a city with the ‘toughest gun laws’ end up with ‘worst gun violence’?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... f30b92b1b3

Short answer: No.

The States With The Most Gun Laws See The Fewest Gun-Related Deaths
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /71003050/

Arm teachers? C'mon, lol!

Wash Post ... USA Today :lol:
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